The Pregnancy Pact

[Belinda]

I think this is technically a movie, right? Even if it's on TV? Either way, someone can move it if this is the wrong section.

I know at least two of you are watching this with me right now, since I see your facebook statuses. Opinions? Thoughts? I'm still in shock (and it's not over yet), but I think it's absolutely nuts! And things like this really happen!

[Kira]

I didn't get to watch it cause DH said no way...but I remember this being all over the news for awhile, crazy stuff.

[Jessie.Rose]

I'm watching it and I am pissed at the school!!! When I was 15 I had to take home a robot baby that sensed changing diapers, feeding, burping, its head fell back, and everything...and then when I was a freshman we did this where we picked a job, got a card that said how many kids, pets, and if we were married, and then we went to different stations and had things happen, bills to pay, and accidents, and everything...you really learned a lot and I think if that school were actually teaching their kids!!!! I'm not saying anything to some of you that did have kids at a young age, but having a pact like these girls did is just crazy

[Belinda]

The school in this movie is a Catholic school, I believe. Religious schools seem more inclined to just tell their children to be abstinent, and leave it at that. My high school was much the same way. They mentioned sex once in health class, said not to have it, that's it.

We had four girls get pregnant in my year, and our school newspaper ran a story on it (with their permission, of course). They did a good job of talking about how hard it is, and one of the girls took a shot at the school. I can't remember the exact quote, but it went something like this: "Telling teens not to have sex is like telling a kid not to take a cookie out of a cookie jar." She then went on to talk about the fact that girls just don't know the options available to them, or how difficult having children young is.

[Erin]

Good lord...okay first the actors...not so good.

Second, who drops their pregnant 15 year old daughter off at a party with alcohol??

Third, why can't I turn this off??

[Belinda]

And WHY do none of these 15 year olds not know about fetal alcohol syndrome? Does no one teach that anymore?

[Erin]

And btw *SPOILER ALERT*

I'm really pissed at that girl for giving her baby up for adoption and not giving the dad the opportunity that he wanted.

[Mary Cat]

I wanted to see this but I don't know when it was on or what channel grrr

[68WhiskeyWife]

AHHHHHH! I missed it ause I had to work. I really wanted to see it. I have a lifetime on demand so I'm gonna see if I can catch it there. If not does anyone know if they will be showing it again? If so when?

[Erin]

I'm sure they will show it agian. It was on twice last night alone!!

[Spahr]

its on again tonioght at 9.... I had to turn it off last night because I was EXHAUSTED!!!

[KristiMarie]

WAIT... was this the movie formed out of the actual events that happened in Florida (i think thats teh state it was in?) Where a bunch of 15-16 year old girls AGREED to get preggo together?

[Erin]

allegedly. I think it happened up north though.

[Jessie.Rose]

Sooo....that one chick who was smoking during her pregnancy made me soooo mad!!! her poor baby had all kinds of problems!!! and all the girls who are like "oh one drink isnt gonna hurt my baby" and stuff like that!!! HORRIBLE!!!

[Alyssa]

Mary, it's on Lifetime.

I watched the end of it last night, and the beginning of it before bed... but I feel kind of weird watching it while I am pregnant.

I mean, it's almost offensive to me... I don't know. The acting wasn't that great, yet it WAS a Lifetime movie. Ohhh I don't know I should watch it again today... see if I have a different opinion...

I know it was based on a true story of an actual pregnancy pact.. a few years back... and even that pisses me off.

[Katie]

Its being advertised right now as coming on at 9 EST on Lifetime.

[KristiMarie]

Sooo....that one chick who was smoking during her pregnancy made me soooo mad!!! her poor baby had all kinds of problems!!! and all the girls who are like "oh one drink isnt gonna hurt my baby" and stuff like that!!! HORRIBLE!!!



I just read a article in the "British Journal of Medicine" for a paper I had to write... ONE cup of alcohol a day does NOT lead to increased birth defects OR fetal alcohol syndrome.

It was a very interesting research paper... naturally done in England, not here in the US because people in England drink pretty much a glass of wine every day at supper... and the stigmas attched to drinking while preggo are not as taboo as here in the US. Many Europeans and Brits never stop drinking when preggo, so a group of Dr and nurses teamed up with researchers to perform this test to see if one glass of wine, 1 shot, 1 beer every day increased birth defects or not... and I was shocked to find out NO EFFECTS ON THE BABY were found in this study! In fact, some of the women had easier labor and delivered healthier babies as based on the APGAR score (basically the apgar is a fetal well being test they perform on babies 1 min after birth and again at 10min after birth and its based on color of the baby, oxygenation and stuff like that!)


HOWEVER... smoking HAS been proven to lead to TONS of issues with babies!!

[Alyssa]

I just read a article in the "British Journal of Medicine" for a paper I had to write... ONE cup of alcohol a day does NOT lead to increased birth defects OR fetal alcohol syndrome.



So.... does that mean, I can crack open this bottle of champagne the night Luke gets home and have a glass and be good?? I paid a pretty penny for it... and would love to taste it... Just one glass...?? Lol (Don't judge me.. I don't drink alcohol and I haven't since June. But I would love to have a glass to celebrate the end of this deployment....)

[Erin]

From all the research I've done on FAS, doctors and researchers have not figured out how much alcohol is detrimental, hence the suggestion that you just don't drink at all. They think you would basically need to have 4 units of alcohol a day every single day of your pregnancy to cause FAS, but since they cannot prove it ethnically, they cannot say that.

I choose not to drink during pregnancy. Heaven forbid something did go wrong, even if completely unrelated to alcohol, I would never forgive myself.

[Spahr]

So.... does that mean, I can crack open this bottle of champagne the night Luke gets home and have a glass and be good?? I paid a pretty penny for it... and would love to taste it... Just one glass...?? Lol (Don't judge me.. I don't drink alcohol and I haven't since June. But I would love to have a glass to celebrate the end of this deployment....)

I would... maybe not a full glass but a sip or two. I did have a few sips on Charlies 21st birthday.... I wasnt comfortable drinking more than that.

[Mary Cat]

LIke 15 minutes after I posted this, I was flipping through the channels and it was starting again! I watched it and the hubs actually sat and watched it with me. I don't get it, but maybe it'll teach young girls that pregnancy is a responsibility and not just something you do when you "love" someone at 15

[Erin]

I don't think they focused enough on the negative aspect of being a teenage mom. All they focused on was the negative publicity of having a pregnancy pact.

[Mary Cat]

I agree Erin!!! They should've done more with the stuff after they had the baby's and how hard it was/is. When they went to that party and were drinking I was sooo mad (and the girl smoking)! Even though research hasn't showed how much alcohol makes FAS, there has been stuff showing that it's different for everyone.

[Kathryn]

I just watched it...those girls are idiots! Omg..I was 16 when I had my baby and its not fun..its hard work! Some of the crap the girls were saying I just wanted to punch them. And what's with the drinking!? Urrgghhhh I just can't believe that some girls are so naieve to actually do something like make a pact to get pregnant. Its ridiculous..

[Mary Cat]

I wouldn't make a pact no matter how old I was! lol
Even now that we're ttc I wouldn't make a pact b/c not everyone is ready at that same time no matter what age

[Erin]

Mary...let's make a pact!!!! Omg we can both have girls and dress them up all the time and they can be best friends!!!

[68WhiskeyWife]

K I feel like an idiot. I missed it again. I'll check lifetimes website and see when it comes on again.

[Katie]

I didn't watch the movie, but I have been watching crap about Bristol Palin lately and her on Oprah with her mom. And she drives me insane... She is trying to be an advocate for teens and abstaining from sex. But I really feel like she is a HORRIBLE example. She tries to tell people what a hard time she is having raising her baby as a single mom and how hard it is without the babies father and without him paying child support etc.. Now WAIT a minute.. Does she not live at home with Mommy & Daddy? Who are also weathy? Isn't mommy a politician? Don't they have Staff (nannys, cooks at least part time etc House keeper) if I remember correctly? So..Um..Quitcherbitchin.. She really has no idea what being a young single teen mom is really all about.. Scraping to buy diapers, Staying up all night to study in between feedings and diaper changes (trying not to drop out), for class, go to work after school, etc etc etc.... She has NO IDEA... Missing proms and graduations... NOt going out with your friends thats if you still have friends... it really just pisses me off she is a HORRIBLE Example/advocate. and when she "PLEDGES" to abstain from sex till marriage she follows up with it's just a goal.. Um, you either pledge to do it or your gonna try and its a goal one or the other.. She's a freakin joke in my book!!!! She really makes me mad!!!

[Mary Cat]

OH Yes Erin, LET'S DO IT! lol

Katie, I completely agree with you! Teenage girls need to be listening to and experiencing other young moms who don't "have it made". It's just teaching them that mommy and others will be there to take care of their kid which is not true.

[Erin]

Yeah I don't know any teen mom's whose daily activity involves a photo shoot for a magazine cover.

[Kathryn]

Yeah I don't know any teen mom's whose daily activity involves a photo shoot for a magazine cover.

Ain't that the truth! Only photoshoot I get is with lexie at chuck e cheese in the photobooth..lol

[snwalways41903]

i dont remember hearing of this when it actually happened. guess there wasnt cable in the box i was living in. haha. anyways i didnt know what to think. i was too afraid of my dad to be doing anything that didnt involve sports or church. at 13-15 i didnt have time for boys. my mom and i clashed alot cause she wanted to put me on BC when i was 14 just because of what all the other girls/guys were doing, i used to get aggravated with being judged cause of what everyone else was doing!